Big 12 TV deal spells bad news for conference

What does the Big 12 telecast mean for the Pac-12? Writers have thoughts.

A report that the Big 12 was opening talks with Fox and ESPN about its next television deal sent shockwaves through the college expansion and realignment debates on Wednesday.

What does it mean for the Pac-12?

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ESPN’s Pete Thamel writes: “The Big 12 plans to engage in discussions with Fox and ESPN about the league’s next television contract, the conference announced Wednesday. The conference said in a statement that it “will begin discussions with media partners.” to explore a rapid expansion of its existing deals.” Sources had previously told ESPN that the two networks had agreed to the talks.”

Sports Illustrated’s Andy Mitts writes, “But that’s likely to change. IF the Big 12 can get preliminary numbers, and if those numbers are significantly higher than what the Pac 12 is likely to bring in, then that information might is the final push needed to get the next round of alignment rolling in. But we’ll have to wait and see if the Big 12 can extract significantly more value in this next deal, or if the Big Ten media deal ate it up most of the remaining available cash.”

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ESPN’s Pete Thamel writes: “The willingness of the Big 12’s television partners to come to the table could mitigate a big advantage the Pac-12 has in the conference’s television landscape. At Pac-12 briefing days, commissioner George Kliavkoff said the league was in the “envious position of being next to the market” after the Big Ten. The Pac-12 has two years left on its television contract, and the league announced in July that its board had authorized the conference to begin negotiations for the next It’s unclear how much that helped the Pac-12.Prior to the Big 12 planning talks, the Pac-12’s advantage in the television landscape was that the conference could give tangible numbers to its member schools and any additions .With the Big 12 having three years left on its deal, the prevailing thinking was that the conference could only provide projected numbers, which would be a risk for any school who was thinking of joining l. eague. The Big 12 and Pac-12 are trying to find an edge after significant membership losses over the past year.”

CBS Sports’ Dennis Dodd writes, “The upside for the Big 12 is that it will have 12 schools united going forward even after the departures of Oklahoma and Texas. It can offer franchise owners at least the perception of stability given BYU, of Cincinnati, Houston and UCF will join the league. The same cannot be said for the remaining 10 Pac-12 teams. The conference loses the Los Angeles market, a key element in evaluating its media rights championship when USC and UCLA leave in 2024.”

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Outkick’s David Hookstead writes, “Why is the Big 12 getting the ball rolling on a new media deal so poorly reported for the PAC-12? It’s shockingly simple. The big ballpark the PAC-12 had for its members to stick together was the possibility of a new media deal However, with so much uncertainty hanging over the PAC-12 and the Big Ten gunning to pursue other teams, it seems unlikely that a media network will give the conference a huge deal. Does it make sense to agree to a deal without knowing who might be in the conference in a few years? Of course not, and what program is going to agree to a long-term deal if there’s a chance you’ll go to the Big Ten? The answer is none. Now, the Big 12 can potentially secure a new deal and move him to non-B1G PAC-12 programs like Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah to see if a deal can be made.”

The Pac-12 expansion debate is heating up.  Who could the conference add to the college realignment?

The Pac-12 expansion debate is heating up. Who could the conference add to the college realignment?

Pac-12 Insider John Canzano writes: “ESPN president Burke Magnus talked about expanding the Pac-12, not shrinking it. He said he didn’t think anyone thought the conference would stay at 10 members. Magnus is negotiating with the conference and talked about Pac-12 expansion as if it were a foregone conclusion. It got my attention and raised the eyebrows of those in the media rights world.”

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Outkick’s David Hookstead writes, “There’s only one problem with the PAC-12 trying to expand as a last-ditch effort to survive, and that’s the fact that the conference has very little leverage right now. If reality was known, there were no more left. teams for the Big Ten, the conference would actually be in a solid position to at least move forward as is and maybe pick up some MWC teams. However, without a locked-in media deal, there really isn’t any incentive to join the PAC – 12, and who’s going to give the conference a media deal when many more teams might leave? Essentially, the PAC-12’s selling point to smaller programs is *maybe* stability going forward, but that’s not certain. at the moment … PAC-12 appears to be in serious trouble and it is incredibly unlikely that Mary will save it based on the information we know at this time.”

John Canzano writes: “I’m not saying Oregon and Washington are stuck in the Pac-12 forever. We’re in wild times. I think we could see another round of major landscape changes in two, three, five, or seven years . But right now, I’m leaning toward the idea of ​​the remaining 10 members staying together in this cycle and adding a few more universities through expansion. Expansion would immediately help the Pac-12’s mission take hold. Add new members, especially in a fractional distribution of media rights in the first 2-4 years, you could sprinkle some of that remaining revenue into Oregon and Washington to keep them happy.”

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Sports Illustrated’s Kevin Korba writes, “Adding a San Diego State would give the Pac-12 access to the Southern California market again, while UNLV gives access to the Las Vegas cross-country market. However, if they are able to attract a higher-profile Big 12 team that could also be enticing. Regardless of who they decide to go after, there’s an unwavering belief that expansion is coming,” ESPN executive Burke Magnus said.

Brian Clinton of Heartland Sports writes: “Oklahoma State is a prime expansion candidate, but to think they’d leave for the Pac-12 is abysmal,” he wrote. “I’d be worried if it was the SEC or the Big Ten, but leaving the Big 12 when it finally finds some stability for a moribund conference in the Pac-12 doesn’t make sense. Now, I don’t” I don’t usually consider myself a fortune teller , but I can say with absolute confidence that the Big 12 isn’t going to break up because schools like Oklahoma decide they’d like to align themselves with programs out west. While this may be something George Kliavkoff hopes and dreams for, the Pac-12 missed the opportunity to expand nearly a decade ago, ultimately leaving the conference to die moving forward.

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Pistols Firing’s Marshall Scott writes, “The Pac-12 and Big 12 have been put in a similar boat for the past two years, with both conferences losing top brands due to conference realignment. With USC and UCLA have already made plans to join the Big Ten, the Pac-12 is in danger of losing at least one more school from the Big Ten, as Oregon has reportedly begun preliminary talks to see if the Ducks will fit into the conference.chairs, which could push some Pac-12 schools (such as Utah, Arizona, Arizona State and Colorado) into the Big 12.”

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Pac-12 Insider John Canzano has San Diego at 2-1 to join the conference, SMU at 4-1, UNLV at 4-1, Boise State at 6-1, Fresno State at 8- 1 and the “Big 12 hunting” at 10-1.

He wrote: “Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff said at Media Day last month that he had not yet decided whether to go shopping in the Big 12. It was a flourish directed at a conference he accused of throwing ‘hand grenades at him. » for several weeks. Kliavkoff said he believed the Big 12 was trying to destabilize the Pac-12. There’s the matter of the Big 12’s bylaws, which likely penalize departing members as much as $76 million. But there’s a tricky solution there.”

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Chuck Neinas told Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News: “The amount of media revenue they’re going to get is very similar, so why would they leave? Why would it be attractive for Pac-12 schools to go to the Big 12? Both will remain as they are. If something happens in Oregon or Washington, that could change the picture.”

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John Canzano wrote: “If the Pac-12 smacks of Oklahoma State, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas and Kansas City, the Big 12 would break up. I don’t think that will happen. In part, because I don’t believe ESPN wants to further disrupt the struggling ecosystem. Also, because I don’t think the Pac-12 would necessarily want all of these schools. Still, I’m throwing it out there because a Pac-12 AD told me it is in favor of chasing some current and future Big 12 teams versus adding a bunch of Mountain West contenders that devalue the Pac-12. “Oklahoma State is at the top of my list,” he said.”

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